Comments on: VegEPA: Bad Science, Good Public Relations http://www.pr-consultant.co.uk/vegepa-bad-science-good-public-relations/ Sat, 05 Nov 2011 22:00:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Stephen Newtonhttp://www.pr-consultant.co.uk/vegepa-bad-science-good-public-relations/comment-page-1/#comment-1777 Stephen Newton Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:05:13 +0000 http://www.pr-consultant.co.uk/2007/03/vegepa-bad-science-good-public-relations.html#comment-1777 THE COMMENTS ON THIS POST ARE NOW CLOSED AS THE FACILITY HAS BEEN ABUSED. SOME COMMENTATORS HAVE USED MULTIPLE PEN NAMES AND SUBSEQUENTLY ASKED FOR COMMENTS TO BE REMOVED AND I DON’T HAVE THE TIME TO POLICE THAT KIND OF THING. THE COMMENTS ON THIS POST ARE NOW CLOSED AS THE FACILITY HAS BEEN ABUSED. SOME COMMENTATORS HAVE USED MULTIPLE PEN NAMES AND SUBSEQUENTLY ASKED FOR COMMENTS TO BE REMOVED AND I DON’T HAVE THE TIME TO POLICE THAT KIND OF THING.

]]> By: Paul Londonhttp://www.pr-consultant.co.uk/vegepa-bad-science-good-public-relations/comment-page-1/#comment-1416 Paul London Wed, 13 Feb 2008 19:31:23 +0000 http://www.pr-consultant.co.uk/2007/03/vegepa-bad-science-good-public-relations.html#comment-1416 CORRECTION DHA IS ONE OF THOSE INHIBITING OR COMPETING OILS!!!!!!!!!!!!! SORRY ABOUT THAT MY MISTAKE CORRECTION DHA IS ONE OF THOSE INHIBITING OR COMPETING OILS!!!!!!!!!!!!! SORRY ABOUT THAT MY MISTAKE

]]> By: Paul Londonhttp://www.pr-consultant.co.uk/vegepa-bad-science-good-public-relations/comment-page-1/#comment-1415 Paul London Wed, 13 Feb 2008 19:26:33 +0000 http://www.pr-consultant.co.uk/2007/03/vegepa-bad-science-good-public-relations.html#comment-1415 Guys I studied Biochemoistry at uni and I say that not to impress you but to impress upon you that this stuff WORKS!!!Now.. why it works may have a lot to do with the fact that in the first place the diets of those involved is somehow lacking in essential oils required to overcome certain problems. One of those problems in obsese children is the that the diet consists of so many bad oils and refined products the brain cannot funtion properly. As such DHA is one of those requird products but it is often inhibited and made less effective by the presence of other MASKING oils or products. Its that simple.I have noticed my nieves and Nephews concentrate better at school on it.. I have noticed one of them who suffers from NeuroFibroids to be significantly less jumpy and spasms less in the odd movement.. and he says he figits less at school!!!Theres gold in them VegEPA hills.. dont listen to the naysayers.. start using at will.PS DO NOT OVERDOSE ON THIS STUFF.. my sugestion is NOT a tablet a day.. rather a tablet/capsule every 2 to three days and whatever you do CUT OUT DAIRY PRODUCTS AND RED MEAT from your diet.. dont even think about it these foods as well as SUGAR/CARBOHYDRATE are the absolute curse of your diets replace carbs with lentils and veg.. it even tatses better and once you go there youll never go back after 2 weeks like this..PS I have not caught a cold in almost 3 years now... my skin is unbelievably radient and I even get chatted up by ladies its astonishing.. never ever again will I eat chips/potaoes and starchy foods other than a single odd mouthfull.. My main stay is fish and vegetables and prawns and its like eating gormet food every night.PPS Dont microwave anything thats in or on plastic... or your looking for trouble in future... Peace out the Paul Guys I studied Biochemoistry at uni and I say that not to impress you but to impress upon you that this stuff WORKS!!!

Now.. why it works may have a lot to do with the fact that in the first place the diets of those involved is somehow lacking in essential oils required to overcome certain problems. One of those problems in obsese children is the that the diet consists of so many bad oils and refined products the brain cannot funtion properly. As such DHA is one of those requird products but it is often inhibited and made less effective by the presence of other MASKING oils or products. Its that simple.

I have noticed my nieves and Nephews concentrate better at school on it.. I have noticed one of them who suffers from NeuroFibroids to be significantly less jumpy and spasms less in the odd movement.. and he says he figits less at school!!!

Theres gold in them VegEPA hills.. dont listen to the naysayers.. start using at will.PS DO NOT OVERDOSE ON THIS STUFF.. my sugestion is NOT a tablet a day.. rather a tablet/capsule every 2 to three days and whatever you do CUT OUT DAIRY PRODUCTS AND RED MEAT from your diet.. dont even think about it these foods as well as SUGAR/CARBOHYDRATE are the absolute curse of your diets replace carbs with lentils and veg.. it even tatses better and once you go there youll never go back after 2 weeks like this..PS I have not caught a cold in almost 3 years now… my skin is unbelievably radient and I even get chatted up by ladies its astonishing.. never ever again will I eat chips/potaoes and starchy foods other than a single odd mouthfull.. My main stay is fish and vegetables and prawns and its like eating gormet food every night.

PPS Dont microwave anything thats in or on plastic… or your looking for trouble in future…
Peace out
the Paul

]]> By: m .lloydhttp://www.pr-consultant.co.uk/vegepa-bad-science-good-public-relations/comment-page-1/#comment-123 m .lloyd Tue, 22 Jan 2008 19:29:54 +0000 http://www.pr-consultant.co.uk/2007/03/vegepa-bad-science-good-public-relations.html#comment-123 hey HAN ( and u guys ), vegepa works, give it a chance to do so, remember there are so many unknowns and variables when taking any supplement ; feel free to eliminate things like alcohol, smoking, any other drugs etc, the cleaner and more chemical-free you are the better chance vegepa has of working, ive been taking it for for years, i had lost all hope after having M.E for about 5 years before taking it, i even had the pleasure and privelidge of talking to its creator on the phone, prof. basant puri, there are books available that he has written covering everything you need to know, just type in his name into google and bobs ya uncle, also think of taking more capsules a day, like 7 or 8, the more u take the better u get and quicker too; remember eliminate all possible blocks to it working and enhance its ability to work ( take other oils, such as salad dressing etc; primrose oil, study these different oils and you will get better, experiment with combinations anddosages, the brain is mainly water and FAT , this is why vegepa works, they are FATTY ACIDS, and whatever heals the brain heals the body, for it is its command centre, vegepa works, im still taking it and i hope to take it for the rest of my life, i have a motto : USE WHAT WORKS; GIVE IT THE BEST CHANCE TO WORK, all the best and never give up! , mike. hey HAN ( and u guys ), vegepa works, give it a chance to do so, remember there are so many unknowns and variables when taking any supplement ; feel free to eliminate things like alcohol, smoking, any other drugs etc, the cleaner and more chemical-free you are the better chance vegepa has of working, ive been taking it for for years, i had lost all hope after having M.E for about 5 years before taking it, i even had the pleasure and privelidge of talking to its creator on the phone, prof. basant puri, there are books available that he has written covering everything you need to know, just type in his name into google and bobs ya uncle, also think of taking more capsules a day, like 7 or 8, the more u take the better u get and quicker too; remember eliminate all possible blocks to it working and enhance its ability to work ( take other oils, such as salad dressing etc; primrose oil, study these different oils and you will get better, experiment with combinations anddosages, the brain is mainly water and FAT , this is why vegepa works, they are FATTY ACIDS, and whatever heals the brain heals the body, for it is its command centre, vegepa works, im still taking it and i hope to take it for the rest of my life, i have a motto : USE WHAT WORKS; GIVE IT THE BEST CHANCE TO WORK, all the best and never give up! , mike.

]]> By: hanhttp://www.pr-consultant.co.uk/vegepa-bad-science-good-public-relations/comment-page-1/#comment-125 han Sat, 05 Jan 2008 13:23:39 +0000 http://www.pr-consultant.co.uk/2007/03/vegepa-bad-science-good-public-relations.html#comment-125 I was given a pot of 60 Vegepa tabs by a friend over a year ago. I suffer from depression, ME, and numerous allergies. Having had most of these conditions from early childhood, I believe that I am naturally sceptical when trying anything new. Nothing has cured me so far, why should this be any different. To be honest, when I first started trying to take 4 tabs a day, I remember feeling well but having so many different conditions that are affected by various factors such as time of year etc, it can make it hard to monitor. I just assumed I was having a well patch anyway. I do have definite breakthroughs such as the day that it dawned on me that it was the effects of coffee that would flare my eczema up beyond control. The reason I had never attributed it before was because the effects were not immediate, I can expect to have very painful irritated skin, only beginning two days after drinking any coffee. I recently decided to use the unfinished pot of Vegepa up, rather than chucking it away. I took them along with my regular vitamin tablets and thought no more about it. It wasn't until quite a few days into a period of very painful eczema flair-up, and a bad case of depression that it occurred to me that it had maybe coincided with the fact I was no longer taking those tablets. For me this kind of 'dawning on me' realization, are my best gage, rather than times when I waking each morning hoping for some change. I am able to be sure that I haven’t simply been so desperate to see results. So here I am. I have come online to find out more about this Vegepa and am very confused! I am very disappointed that the company has not conducted it's own research. Ordinarily an issue like this alone would make me sceptical enough to believe that the company is no better than the email spammers suggesting a miracle pill, but there are also so many testimonials from real people as well as possibility they may have helped me a small amount already. So feeling slightly apprehensive at the idea I may possibly still be duped, I think I will part with a small amount of cash and give these tabs another try. If these really do work as well as so many people say they do, wouldn't it be nice if the company itself had enough faith was willing to part with some cash to conduct it's own extensive medical trial. I was given a pot of 60 Vegepa tabs by a friend over a year ago. I suffer from depression, ME, and numerous allergies.
Having had most of these conditions from early childhood, I believe that I am naturally sceptical when trying anything new. Nothing has cured me so far, why should this be any different.
To be honest, when I first started trying to take 4 tabs a day, I remember feeling well but having so many different conditions that are affected by various factors such as time of year etc, it can make it hard to monitor. I just assumed I was having a well patch anyway.
I do have definite breakthroughs such as the day that it dawned on me that it was the effects of coffee that would flare my eczema up beyond control. The reason I had never attributed it before was because the effects were not immediate, I can expect to have very painful irritated skin, only beginning two days after drinking any coffee.
I recently decided to use the unfinished pot of Vegepa up, rather than chucking it away. I took them along with my regular vitamin tablets and thought no more about it.
It wasn’t until quite a few days into a period of very painful eczema flair-up, and a bad case of depression that it occurred to me that it had maybe coincided with the fact I was no longer taking those tablets.
For me this kind of ‘dawning on me’ realization, are my best gage, rather than times when I waking each morning hoping for some change. I am able to be sure that I haven’t simply been so desperate to see results.
So here I am. I have come online to find out more about this Vegepa and am very confused!
I am very disappointed that the company has not conducted it’s own research. Ordinarily an issue like this alone would make me sceptical enough to believe that the company is no better than the email spammers suggesting a miracle pill, but there are also so many testimonials from real people as well as possibility they may have helped me a small amount already.
So feeling slightly apprehensive at the idea I may possibly still be duped, I think I will part with a small amount of cash and give these tabs another try.
If these really do work as well as so many people say they do, wouldn’t it be nice if the company itself had enough faith was willing to part with some cash to conduct it’s own extensive medical trial.

]]> By: B Rolfehttp://www.pr-consultant.co.uk/vegepa-bad-science-good-public-relations/comment-page-1/#comment-113 B Rolfe Thu, 06 Dec 2007 14:02:38 +0000 http://www.pr-consultant.co.uk/2007/03/vegepa-bad-science-good-public-relations.html#comment-113 I've just read through the diverse comments on this thread and thought I'd like to add my own. I've also had M.E. for nigh on 8 years and can confess that VegEPA has helped me enormously too. I have periods whereby I don't take the supplement because either I can't afford it (or any other supplement) or because of sheer forgetfullness and lack of time. I have recently looked back over the chequered past of taking VegEPA and can now see very clear ups and very low downs that coincide with when I take the capsule and when I don't. Normal Omega-3 just doesn't seem to make much difference. I also suffer from SAD (Seasonal Affective Disorder) and it also helps tremendously with the depression that comes with it. I have two children, one 5, one 2, and boy!, do I need "lifting" otherwise their lives become a misery too. I know this is only anecdotal and not clinical research but it is true and real. Unlike the apparent "rigorous" testing that is carried out by the multi-million pound companies with products that are later removed from circulation because of horrendous and sometimes fatal consequences that were glossed over at the initial stages of research (or clearly not "rigorously" researched at the time). Long may freedom of choice reign! I’ve just read through the diverse comments on this thread and thought I’d like to add my own. I’ve also had M.E. for nigh on 8 years and can confess that VegEPA has helped me enormously too. I have periods whereby I don’t take the supplement because either I can’t afford it (or any other supplement) or because of sheer forgetfullness and lack of time. I have recently looked back over the chequered past of taking VegEPA and can now see very clear ups and very low downs that coincide with when I take the capsule and when I don’t. Normal Omega-3 just doesn’t seem to make much difference. I also suffer from SAD (Seasonal Affective Disorder) and it also helps tremendously with the depression that comes with it. I have two children, one 5, one 2, and boy!, do I need “lifting” otherwise their lives become a misery too. I know this is only anecdotal and not clinical research but it is true and real. Unlike the apparent “rigorous” testing that is carried out by the multi-million pound companies with products that are later removed from circulation because of horrendous and sometimes fatal consequences that were glossed over at the initial stages of research (or clearly not “rigorously” researched at the time). Long may freedom of choice reign!

]]> By: Jimmy Bhttp://www.pr-consultant.co.uk/vegepa-bad-science-good-public-relations/comment-page-1/#comment-84 Jimmy B Tue, 04 Dec 2007 18:09:00 +0000 http://www.pr-consultant.co.uk/2007/03/vegepa-bad-science-good-public-relations.html#comment-84 Hi folks, my ex-wife had lupus. She was prescribed Vioxx by a highly regarded gentleman in the field of Lupus. Vioxx was withdrawn from global use by its manufacturer Merck, on September 30th 2004, after new clinical trial results showed that it significantly increased the risk of serious cardiovascular events, in particular heart attacks, amongst users. Various lawsuits have followed. She was also attracted to the idea of chinese medicines, some of which were uncontrolled and "laced" with steriods - its the steriods that make you feel great, not necessarily the "chinese" aspects of it. (I am sure some chinese medicies are great and and don't contain steroids etc). Sugar might taste great, teeth an isue. Alcohol might make you feel on top of the world for a while, but ... I am just pointing out that it is natural that we should try and obtain balanced views on side effects of all drugs and supplements, prescription or otherwise. Both stephen and fat kitten do make some interesting points. Oddly enough my interest in VegEPA are to aid anger management - reading someone's angry ratings here about its success, it does make me wander if it helps in that department... Hi folks, my ex-wife had lupus. She was prescribed Vioxx by a highly regarded gentleman in the field of Lupus. Vioxx was withdrawn from global use by its manufacturer Merck, on September 30th 2004, after new clinical trial results showed that it significantly increased the risk of serious cardiovascular events, in particular heart attacks, amongst users.
Various lawsuits have followed. She was also attracted to the idea of chinese medicines, some of which were uncontrolled and “laced” with steriods – its the steriods that make you feel great, not necessarily the “chinese” aspects of it. (I am sure some chinese medicies are great and and don’t contain steroids etc). Sugar might taste great, teeth an isue. Alcohol might make you feel on top of the world for a while, but … I am just pointing out that it is natural that we should try and obtain balanced views on side effects of all drugs and supplements, prescription or otherwise. Both stephen and fat kitten do make some interesting points. Oddly enough my interest in VegEPA are to aid anger management – reading someone’s angry ratings here about its success, it does make me wander if it helps in that department…

]]> By: Juliahttp://www.pr-consultant.co.uk/vegepa-bad-science-good-public-relations/comment-page-1/#comment-117 Julia Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:00:18 +0000 http://www.pr-consultant.co.uk/2007/03/vegepa-bad-science-good-public-relations.html#comment-117 I am also very interested in this discussion. What is the harm in trying? Are there harmful side effects to fear?I suffered from a combination of ME, GAD & depression for 2 years. Not wanting to take Prozac as offered by my GP - I decided to try the more natural products. I used many things(herbs, supplements etc) without success. I then started taking 4 VegEPA per day with a multivitamin and slowly but surely my previous calm mood and motivation to do former activities have returned.This could be natural healing over time or the VegEPA. Certainly not placebo because I took other herbs and supplements before which did not work.All I can add is that when you feel that ill, anxious and miserable - you try what you can to get better. I was very persistent with "alternative" treatments and managed to get well again - without becoming addicted to any prescription drugs with nasty side-effects. I am also very interested in this discussion. What is the harm in trying? Are there harmful side effects to fear?

I suffered from a combination of ME, GAD & depression for 2 years. Not wanting to take Prozac as offered by my GP – I decided to try the more natural products. I used many things(herbs, supplements etc) without success. I then started taking 4 VegEPA per day with a multivitamin and slowly but surely my previous calm mood and motivation to do former activities have returned.

This could be natural healing over time or the VegEPA. Certainly not placebo because I took other herbs and supplements before which did not work.

All I can add is that when you feel that ill, anxious and miserable – you try what you can to get better. I was very persistent with “alternative” treatments and managed to get well again – without becoming addicted to any prescription drugs with nasty side-effects.

]]> By: Kellyhttp://www.pr-consultant.co.uk/vegepa-bad-science-good-public-relations/comment-page-1/#comment-112 Kelly Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:40:58 +0000 http://www.pr-consultant.co.uk/2007/03/vegepa-bad-science-good-public-relations.html#comment-112 Hi folks, I am very interested in your discussion. I have just recently been diagnosed with GAD and Depression. I am suffering mild Agrophobia but unfortunatley due to financial problems I am forced to leave the house for work every day. I do not want to go down the road of anti-depressants as taking any form of medication causes me more anxiety. I am planning on buying some vegEPA today and will keep you update with my progress! Hi folks, I am very interested in your discussion. I have just recently been diagnosed with GAD and Depression. I am suffering mild Agrophobia but unfortunatley due to financial problems I am forced to leave the house for work every day. I do not want to go down the road of anti-depressants as taking any form of medication causes me more anxiety. I am planning on buying some vegEPA today and will keep you update with my progress!

]]> By: m,lloydhttp://www.pr-consultant.co.uk/vegepa-bad-science-good-public-relations/comment-page-1/#comment-124 m,lloyd Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:01:10 +0000 http://www.pr-consultant.co.uk/2007/03/vegepa-bad-science-good-public-relations.html#comment-124 I agree with ALEXANDRA,I ALSO THINK the only reason why " stephen newton" is negative about vegepa is because he is completely and utterly clueless of the product he is attacking, shoddy journalism, non-existent observation, ill thought through research ; tell me stephen, what research into vegepa did YOU do ???. the agenda-seekers are bending his ear ( pharmaceutical industry etc with their scandelous profit-making), isnt it about time he used some common-sense and talked to the people vegepa is benefiting every day, ive had M.E/CFS for 9 years and have found vegepa extreemly useful, not to mention a virtual life-saver...anyone else agree ? I agree with ALEXANDRA,I ALSO THINK the only reason why ” stephen newton” is negative about vegepa is because he is completely and utterly clueless of the product he is attacking, shoddy journalism, non-existent observation, ill thought through research ; tell me stephen, what research into vegepa did YOU do ???. the agenda-seekers are bending his ear ( pharmaceutical industry etc with their scandelous profit-making), isnt it about time he used some common-sense and talked to the people vegepa is benefiting every day, ive had M.E/CFS for 9 years and have found vegepa extreemly useful, not to mention a virtual life-saver…anyone else agree ?

]]>