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> <channel><title>Comments on: Manchester Confidential outflanks Evening News as voice of Manchester</title> <atom:link href="http://www.pr-consultant.co.uk/manchester-confidential-voice/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.pr-consultant.co.uk/manchester-confidential-voice/</link> <description></description> <lastBuildDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2011 22:00:12 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1</generator> <item><title>By: cheeseman</title><link>http://www.pr-consultant.co.uk/manchester-confidential-voice/comment-page-1/#comment-38270</link> <dc:creator>cheeseman</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:36:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.pr-consultant.co.uk/2007/08/manchester-confidential-voice.html#comment-38270</guid> <description>Listen you like what you like and Confidential is funny and informed. Nuff said</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Listen you like what you like and Confidential is funny and informed. Nuff said</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Patric</title><link>http://www.pr-consultant.co.uk/manchester-confidential-voice/comment-page-1/#comment-26306</link> <dc:creator>Patric</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 13:32:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.pr-consultant.co.uk/2007/08/manchester-confidential-voice.html#comment-26306</guid> <description>The Castlefield debate just shows ManCon for what they are - cashing in on a debate to try and generate more business - I thin they only got Alberts Shed signed up off the back of it as other Castlefield businesses didn&#039;t want to get into bed with certain members of their team from what I hear.
They were quick to claim victory in the Jacksons Wharf debate despite not even doing about the protest, lead by the likes of Pride Of Manchester, James Hickman, Anthony McCaul and Marc Ramsbottom.
I have to give them full credit for their self-PR, (presumably some of the replies below are from their office).  Speak to anybody who has worked for them or advertised with them in the past and you&#039;ll get a different answer as to whether or not they are an editorial or advertorial website.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Castlefield debate just shows ManCon for what they are &#8211; cashing in on a debate to try and generate more business &#8211; I thin they only got Alberts Shed signed up off the back of it as other Castlefield businesses didn&#8217;t want to get into bed with certain members of their team from what I hear.<br
/> They were quick to claim victory in the Jacksons Wharf debate despite not even doing about the protest, lead by the likes of Pride Of Manchester, James Hickman, Anthony McCaul and Marc Ramsbottom.<br
/> I have to give them full credit for their self-PR, (presumably some of the replies below are from their office).  Speak to anybody who has worked for them or advertised with them in the past and you&#8217;ll get a different answer as to whether or not they are an editorial or advertorial website.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Karen Handlen</title><link>http://www.pr-consultant.co.uk/manchester-confidential-voice/comment-page-1/#comment-21117</link> <dc:creator>Karen Handlen</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 15:57:16 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.pr-consultant.co.uk/2007/08/manchester-confidential-voice.html#comment-21117</guid> <description>I love Manchester Confidential. Certain writers are the best on their subject in Manchester and I&#039;d include Nicola Mostyn, Phil Griffin, Jonathan Schofield, Gordo, Laura Whitworth, Daz Mossop and various others. If you&#039;re intelligent enough it&#039;s easy to spot the dividing line between advertorial and editorial. The former doesn&#039;t have a rant facility.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love Manchester Confidential. Certain writers are the best on their subject in Manchester and I&#8217;d include Nicola Mostyn, Phil Griffin, Jonathan Schofield, Gordo, Laura Whitworth, Daz Mossop and various others. If you&#8217;re intelligent enough it&#8217;s easy to spot the dividing line between advertorial and editorial. The former doesn&#8217;t have a rant facility.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jacob McCarthy</title><link>http://www.pr-consultant.co.uk/manchester-confidential-voice/comment-page-1/#comment-9758</link> <dc:creator>Jacob McCarthy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 18:48:23 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.pr-consultant.co.uk/2007/08/manchester-confidential-voice.html#comment-9758</guid> <description>Manchester Confidential is getting better all the time. It is witty and very direct and covers a huge range of topics.Not even sure about the advertorial thing at the moment either. Loved the way they treated the Rangers situation this week.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Manchester Confidential is getting better all the time. It is witty and very direct and covers a huge range of topics.Not even sure about the advertorial thing at the moment either. Loved the way they treated the Rangers situation this week.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jonathan Schofield</title><link>http://www.pr-consultant.co.uk/manchester-confidential-voice/comment-page-1/#comment-148</link> <dc:creator>Jonathan Schofield</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2007 09:00:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.pr-consultant.co.uk/2007/08/manchester-confidential-voice.html#comment-148</guid> <description>Hello, I&#039;m the editor of Manchester Confidential. I was away on holiday when these were posted so missed them. We are not an advertorial website, we are a magazine which is strongly commercially. Like all magazines, certainly print magazines, we have advertising and offers, create microsites for people and so on because that&#039;s how we make money. And we do make money, a clear profit.
Yet on average, per week, we post between 15 to 25 home page features, three-quarters of which are editorial without any link to advertising, offers and competitions. This gives, per calendar month, more than eighty stories on the site - much more than most comparable print magazines. This week was very food based but we broke stories too such as The Modern Restaurant and Bar opening in Urbis, did a listing for Pride and previewed the Take That musical, the previous week we wrote about gun crime, Cube Gallery, The Bourne Ultimatum and so on.
We have variety and that will increase, for Rob to say &#039;Manchester Confidential is advertorial&#039; is plain wrong. Even in the food reviews I&#039;ve banned anything but impartiality. Still even if Rob comes on the site for the offers and competitions that&#039;s fine with us.
And from a commercial point of view check out our media information - a exact set of stats not figures guestimated from a supposed &#039;readership&#039;.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, I&#8217;m the editor of Manchester Confidential. I was away on holiday when these were posted so missed them. We are not an advertorial website, we are a magazine which is strongly commercially. Like all magazines, certainly print magazines, we have advertising and offers, create microsites for people and so on because that&#8217;s how we make money. And we do make money, a clear profit.<br
/> Yet on average, per week, we post between 15 to 25 home page features, three-quarters of which are editorial without any link to advertising, offers and competitions. This gives, per calendar month, more than eighty stories on the site &#8211; much more than most comparable print magazines. This week was very food based but we broke stories too such as The Modern Restaurant and Bar opening in Urbis, did a listing for Pride and previewed the Take That musical, the previous week we wrote about gun crime, Cube Gallery, The Bourne Ultimatum and so on.<br
/> We have variety and that will increase, for Rob to say &#8216;Manchester Confidential is advertorial&#8217; is plain wrong. Even in the food reviews I&#8217;ve banned anything but impartiality. Still even if Rob comes on the site for the offers and competitions that&#8217;s fine with us.<br
/> And from a commercial point of view check out our media information &#8211; a exact set of stats not figures guestimated from a supposed &#8216;readership&#8217;.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Stephen Newton</title><link>http://www.pr-consultant.co.uk/manchester-confidential-voice/comment-page-1/#comment-150</link> <dc:creator>Stephen Newton</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 11:42:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.pr-consultant.co.uk/2007/08/manchester-confidential-voice.html#comment-150</guid> <description>&lt;p&gt;There is very little editorial, but to argue that it is entirely advertorial is misleading. The Castlefield campaign, the congestion charge and a previous campaign against increased parking charges show this. More importantly, given that it&#039;s an ents mag, Jonathan Schofield&#039;s reviews can be trusted.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You&#039;re right that the opportunities for PRs are very limited indeed. That they expect you to advertise in support of any competitions / give aways you offer them is a cost issue not an integrity issue. A competition prize should be worth at least as much as the advertising space it takes up, which is why you should always offer &#039;money can&#039;t buy&#039; prizes whose value you can inflate.&lt;/p&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is very little editorial, but to argue that it is entirely advertorial is misleading. The Castlefield campaign, the congestion charge and a previous campaign against increased parking charges show this. More importantly, given that it&#8217;s an ents mag, Jonathan Schofield&#8217;s reviews can be trusted.</p><p>You&#8217;re right that the opportunities for PRs are very limited indeed. That they expect you to advertise in support of any competitions / give aways you offer them is a cost issue not an integrity issue. A competition prize should be worth at least as much as the advertising space it takes up, which is why you should always offer &#8216;money can&#8217;t buy&#8217; prizes whose value you can inflate.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Rob Artisan</title><link>http://www.pr-consultant.co.uk/manchester-confidential-voice/comment-page-1/#comment-149</link> <dc:creator>Rob Artisan</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 11:17:10 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.pr-consultant.co.uk/2007/08/manchester-confidential-voice.html#comment-149</guid> <description>Stephen,not sure about thisManchester Confidential is advertorial.  Try getting an editorial piece in it or even a competition or giveaway without advertising.I think the Manchester Evening News has reach and has visibilitz it can change editorial direction quickly.I only read Manchester Confidential for teh competitions, which I never win.If editorial was accepted I think it would be a stronger publication.Rob</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen,</p><p>not sure about this</p><p>Manchester Confidential is advertorial.  Try getting an editorial piece in it or even a competition or giveaway without advertising.</p><p>I think the Manchester Evening News has reach and has visibilitz it can change editorial direction quickly.</p><p>I only read Manchester Confidential for teh competitions, which I never win.</p><p>If editorial was accepted I think it would be a stronger publication.</p><p>Rob</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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